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		<title>By: Velvel Chusid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Velvel Chusid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 May 2010 03:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JL:

I guess we should first define self hate and what the terminology stands for. What I&#039;m really saying is we as Chasidim will not get anywhere by staying fixed on what a crippled community we are part of and being resentful and angry, we will only harm ourselves and the people around us. Let us rather look at the positives and in any way possible try to change things in a positive way. No man made cripples here, they follow what father and mother told them. 

I&#039;d agree with you if the bees are already after you not honey neither vinegar will be effective. We need to be careful not to enter ther radder otherwise we are doomed.

Thanks for the kind word and much hatzlacah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JL:</p>
<p>I guess we should first define self hate and what the terminology stands for. What I&#8217;m really saying is we as Chasidim will not get anywhere by staying fixed on what a crippled community we are part of and being resentful and angry, we will only harm ourselves and the people around us. Let us rather look at the positives and in any way possible try to change things in a positive way. No man made cripples here, they follow what father and mother told them. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d agree with you if the bees are already after you not honey neither vinegar will be effective. We need to be careful not to enter ther radder otherwise we are doomed.</p>
<p>Thanks for the kind word and much hatzlacah.</p>
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		<title>By: chnyock</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 May 2010 03:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got my 5k sfurim shranks from staples for 300.00....
and am as proud as can be</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got my 5k sfurim shranks from staples for 300.00&#8230;.<br />
and am as proud as can be</p>
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		<title>By: JL</title>
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		<dc:creator>JL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 16:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VC:

Self hate?? It reminds me of the Self-hating Jews like the chilonim, reform and conservative. 

Speaking of self-hate, did you know that the founders of the USA were self-hating Britons?


I don&#039;t like people who cripple themselves on purpose, and are even proud to show of their self-made cripplenes.


If you are trying to catch bees, you should definitely use honey. However, if the bees are coming after you to sting you, then honey wouldn&#039;t be very helpful. You should run or use some vinegar to make them get away.


I loved your article. It was beautiful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VC:</p>
<p>Self hate?? It reminds me of the Self-hating Jews like the chilonim, reform and conservative. </p>
<p>Speaking of self-hate, did you know that the founders of the USA were self-hating Britons?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like people who cripple themselves on purpose, and are even proud to show of their self-made cripplenes.</p>
<p>If you are trying to catch bees, you should definitely use honey. However, if the bees are coming after you to sting you, then honey wouldn&#8217;t be very helpful. You should run or use some vinegar to make them get away.</p>
<p>I loved your article. It was beautiful.</p>
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		<title>By: Velvel chusid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Velvel chusid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 12:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment addressed to JL that is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment addressed to JL that is.</p>
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		<title>By: Velvel Chusid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Velvel Chusid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 00:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JR:

Self hate is not good my friend I&#039;d think. One shouldn&#039;t hate himself even if he&#039;s a serious cripple. We are all brothers and sisters after all. Let&#039;s try changing things with love and not hate. You can catch more bees with honey than viniger, the saying goes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JR:</p>
<p>Self hate is not good my friend I&#8217;d think. One shouldn&#8217;t hate himself even if he&#8217;s a serious cripple. We are all brothers and sisters after all. Let&#8217;s try changing things with love and not hate. You can catch more bees with honey than viniger, the saying goes.</p>
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		<title>By: JR214</title>
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		<dc:creator>JR214</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 20:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JL, that is hilarious!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JL, that is hilarious!!</p>
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		<title>By: shloimy</title>
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		<dc:creator>shloimy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 19:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gigi
Gotta tell you!! about time somebody enjoys the non traditional decor. Except for my original furniture I donot buy local style. I personally like Mod. I also enjoy changing Decor every couple of years.
As of now I can afford it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gigi<br />
Gotta tell you!! about time somebody enjoys the non traditional decor. Except for my original furniture I donot buy local style. I personally like Mod. I also enjoy changing Decor every couple of years.<br />
As of now I can afford it.</p>
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		<title>By: JL</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 19:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must strongly protest this sentiment of downsizing on wedding expenses. First of all, we should not change any system that we have now. Changing anything might bring more changes and God knows where this might lead. 

Secondly, I don’t see any problem that needs to be solved. It’s simple; people who don’t have “bituchon” will have trouble when they have to make a wedding. People who have bituchon should be able to marry off even 12-13 children without any trouble at all. I would suggest we make a “bituchon campaign”. That should solve all the problems.

Thirdly, even if we downsize, we will not gain anything, since all the money spend on a wedding is usually going to the local stores and business in our own community. If we downsize, lots of haimishe people will not have parnuse, and we should not allow such a thing to happen. 

What we need is to move in more money from the outside in to our mini economy. Like more food stamps, section 8, medicade, lifeline and other such government programs. You guys wouldn’t believe it but some people in this community like the one’s working in B&amp;H don’t have government programs, which is truly a waste, since they are not helping to bring in more money from the “outside to the inside”. 

Our rabbis should get together for a meeting to figure out how to increase the number of government programs and how to “kasher” the programs for the B&amp;H people. I would also suggest a new “How not to get caught campaign” so we don’t get caught like the spinker-rabbi or Rubashkin by the anti-semites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="background-color:#FFFFCC !important"><p>I must strongly protest this sentiment of downsizing on wedding expenses. First of all, we should not change any system that we have now. Changing anything might bring more changes and God knows where this might lead. </p>
<p>Secondly, I don’t see any problem that needs to be solved. It’s simple; people who don’t have “bituchon” will have trouble when they have to make a wedding. People who have bituchon should be able to marry off even 12-13 children without any trouble at all. I would suggest we make a “bituchon campaign”. That should solve all the problems.</p>
<p>Thirdly, even if we downsize, we will not gain anything, since all the money spend on a wedding is usually going to the local stores and business in our own community. If we downsize, lots of haimishe people will not have parnuse, and we should not allow such a thing to happen. </p>
<p>What we need is to move in more money from the outside in to our mini economy. Like more food stamps, section 8, medicade, lifeline and other such government programs. You guys wouldn’t believe it but some people in this community like the one’s working in B&amp;H don’t have government programs, which is truly a waste, since they are not helping to bring in more money from the “outside to the inside”. </p>
<p>Our rabbis should get together for a meeting to figure out how to increase the number of government programs and how to “kasher” the programs for the B&amp;H people. I would also suggest a new “How not to get caught campaign” so we don’t get caught like the spinker-rabbi or Rubashkin by the anti-semites.</p>
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		<title>By: Gigi</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 19:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t do a &#039;dining room&#039; per se. I just did one table and chairs set, and saved so much space in the process, I was able to create a comfortable living room too.  With every inch in a Williamsburg apartment being of so much value - why stuff it with extras?

My dining set is upholstered wooden chairs and a wood and glass table.  Modern and pretty, but certainly not the typical &#039;dining room furniture&#039; look.

Which actually just pleases me more. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t do a &#8216;dining room&#8217; per se. I just did one table and chairs set, and saved so much space in the process, I was able to create a comfortable living room too.  With every inch in a Williamsburg apartment being of so much value &#8211; why stuff it with extras?</p>
<p>My dining set is upholstered wooden chairs and a wood and glass table.  Modern and pretty, but certainly not the typical &#8216;dining room furniture&#8217; look.</p>
<p>Which actually just pleases me more. <img src='http://www.unpious.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: shloimy</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 18:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dinette or dining room? I checked out their bedroom sets and they seemed to be low quality.
Funny part is that I furnished my home office with Ikea and also  love it. I just can&#039;t see a nice dining room set for a young couple from Ikea.
Thanks anyway and ill look into it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dinette or dining room? I checked out their bedroom sets and they seemed to be low quality.<br />
Funny part is that I furnished my home office with Ikea and also  love it. I just can&#8217;t see a nice dining room set for a young couple from Ikea.<br />
Thanks anyway and ill look into it.</p>
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